The Development, Relief, and Education for Alien Minors (DREAM) Act of 2010 passed in the U.S. House of Representatives last Wednesday on a narrow margin of 216-198.
For those of us who were glued to our televisions, computers or mobile devices watching the live debate on C-SPAN, the passionate pleas from those supporting the bill and the equally passionate doomsday warnings by those opposed to it were very compelling. How exciting it was to watch democracy in action!
Now that video and official congressional transcripts from that day have been made available to the general public, however, it seems that the actions and words by our members of Congress that day were less about democracy and more about political trickery, outright lies and suspension of the democratic legislative process (if only for a few hours).
On Wednesday, Rep. John Conyers Jr. (D-Mich.), chairman of the House Judiciary Committee said, "Mr. Speaker, ladies and gentlemen of the House, I have heard so much misinformation about the DREAM Act that I hardly know where to begin. First of all, this is not a new bill. It has existed for a decade."
Although there have been different versions of bills with DREAM Act-type provisions, the bill they were actually about to vote on had never been debated in any forum.
In fact, the bill had been introduced just hours earlier and the majority of the provisions within were very different from prior versions of the bill. Invoking the martial law rule, House Democrats did not allow amendments to be made to the bill, took away the ability for the bill to be recommitted, and bypassed all five of the committees with jurisdiction over the provisions of the act.
That's why it's also difficult to believe Conyers when seconds later, he stated, "Most Americans support the DREAM Act. Poll after poll, the majority of Americans approve of the DREAM Act."
In fact, of the 216 congressmen who voted for the act, 50 were Democrats who had lost their re-election bids or were retiring due in part to their support of previous versions of the bill. In Illinois, the only Democrat with a congressional district outside of Chicago to be re-elected in November was Jerry Costello. He and fellow Illinois congressman Dan Lipinski were the only two Democrats in the Illinois delegation to vote against the Act.
Illinois U.S. Reps. Debbie Halvorson (11th), Melissa Bean (8th), Bill Foster (14th) and, Phil Hare (17th) all lost their re-election bids due, in part, to their support of the DREAM Act.
As the bill was only hours old, most of the congressmen had not seen the bill nor had time to fully review it before it came up for a vote. It is safe to say that even fewer Americans knew about the provisions of the bill and so the general American public couldn't possibly approve of a bill which most didn't even know existed.
In order to gain support for the act, open-borders advocates touted the provision that these illegal immigrants would earn their residency status through service in the armed forces.
Conyers continued, "And the last piece of doggerel that I should get rid of is the fact that you can go into the United States military real quickly and be processed as a citizen. Not true. As a matter of fact, you cannot join the military if you are an undocumented person. Yes, that's right."
Conyers was wrong again. 10 USC 504 states: Notwithstanding paragraph (1), the Secretary (of Defense) concerned may authorize the enlistment of a person not described in paragraph (1) if the secretary determines that such enlistment is vital to the national interest. Therefore, this bill is not necessary if its intention is to allow enlistment of illegal immigrants.
Rep. Zoe Lofgren (D-Calif.), chairwoman of the Immigration Subcommittee next quoted a Congressional Budget Office study. "The Congressional Budget Office tells us that this bill, if we pass it, will increase revenues by $1.7 billion."
The CBO study quoted actually was conducted for a recent Senate version of the DREAM Act, not the bill they would be voting on. Furthermore, the CBO was flawed in many ways due to ridiculous assumptions. For instance it assumed that:
- All DREAMers would get jobs immediately upon obtaining legal employment authorization and that they would earn enough in wages so as not to receive income tax refunds.
- No DREAMers would lose a job between 2011 and 2020 and thus would not need unemployment insurance assistance, social security, disability or other entitlement programs.
- No DREAMers would utilize the public health care systems that most currently use between 2011 and 2020.
- Only 15 percent of all DREAMers would apply for federal student loans (while approximately five times that amount of American students utilize the program).
- No DREAMer would default on their federal student loan programs although the current rate for American students has been steadily increasing and is now at 7 percent.
The most interesting part of the CBO study is that it conveniently covers only a 10-year period. After that 10th year, all DREAMers would become eligible to apply for welfare benefits.
Even if all the aforementioned assumptions were correct and led to a revenue increase over 10 years, an aging DREAMer population needing more services would definitely incur more deficits on the U.S. A comprehensive 15- to 20-year study would likely reveal that any revenues would be erased almost immediately after that initial 10-year waiting period. Furthermore, the CBO estimate was $1.4 billion, not $1.7 billion.
The Senate debated their version of the DREAM Act before the House vote. During that debate, various false statements about the DREAM Act were made. The most notable of all fallacies however, were made by none other than Sen. Dick Durbin (D-Ill.), the author and chief sponsor of nearly every Senate version of the bill since 2001.
He said, "For 10 years, they cannot draw a Pell grant, a federal student loan, no Medicaid, no government health programs –they don't qualify for any of it for 10 years."
The version the Senate was about to vote on had also been authored by Durbin just a week earlier, the fourth version of the DREAM Act to be introduced by him since late September 2010. Each of the versions not only had a provision that would allow undocumented aliens to obtain federal student loans, it would also allow them to compete directly with the neediest American students for jobs under the federal work study program.
Additionally, the act would not prohibit states from offering state educational grants to illegal immigrants.
His version of the bill did prohibit illegal immigrants from participating in health care exchanges and similar programs under the health care reform law that passed earlier this year. Currently, when illegal immigrants get sick, they simply go to a local clinic or hospital and get treated and let local governments pick up the tab. In fact, for cities with sanctuary policies, the number one general expenditure is on health care, followed by education costs as a close second.
Therefore, Durbin's implication that they would not be a burden on local hospitals and health care agencies does not hold any water.
To be fair, Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-Ala.) also made a huge false statement about the version of the DREAM Act they were about to vote on:
"There is a cost. In addition, for Pell grants—these are grants, not loans students get to go to college—these individuals would be eligible for those as soon as they get in college…"
Although previous versions of the DREAM Act allowed loopholes for DREAMers to obtain Pell grants, that specific version did not allow it. The House version that was voted on would allow DREAMers to apply for Pell Grants only after they've adjusted status to permanent resident.
Senate Democrats held off voting on their version of the DREAM Act on Wednesday and were unable to muster enough votes to invoke cloture on Thursday. Sen. Harry Reid (D-Nev.) intends to bring up a vote on the House's version of the act early this week.
With so many versions of the DREAM Act floating around and many Americans quoting their opinions on the bills, it became a challenge for even respected journalists such as the Washington Post's Michael Gerson to get his stories right.
In an Op-Ed piece dated Dec. 7, 2010, he discusses the provisions of older versions of the DREAM Act. A few paragraphs later, he references the CBO study and a UCLA study without realizing that they were actually based on other versions of the act. That evening the House introduced yet another version of the act.
The many fallacies in the statements of these key members of Congress bring up questions with only two possible, equally scary answers. The question is, "why are these members of Congress making false statements?"
Is it because they want to lie to us or is it because they don't really know what the provisions of the bill are? Whatever the answer, it's not a good thing.
Geo
5:38 pm on Monday, December 13, 2010
Misinformation...
A daughter/son of a killer should not be penalized for his/her parent's crime... why should it be any different for these individuals? Give them the opportunity of persuit of happiness.
Frank Medina
5:48 pm on Monday, December 13, 2010
@Geo, Tell me this, why should a needy American student or legal resident risk losing their jobs under the federal work study program to an illegal alien?
Are the dreams of American citizens and legal resident students not important enough?
Why aren't we offering the same benefits to students legally in the U.S. on student visas?
Why, when we have an unemployment rate of 9.8 percent, (16 percent for blacks and 13 percent for hispanics) should we give illegal aliens the authorization to legally join our workforce, collect unemployment, social security? Are the dreams of American workers not important enough?
Colleges don't check immigration status so these so called DREAMers can attend college. I think the majority of Americans don't have a problem with that. They just have a problem with having to fund college for untold millions of illegal aliens.
The U.S. allows hundreds of thousands of students to enter the U.S. legally each year. DREAMers have the opportunity to go to college, they just don't want to do so the legal way and want the U.S. taxpayer to pay for it.
itsnotallaboutyou
6:39 pm on Monday, December 13, 2010
Hey frank, that's just it... Why should these kids, who feel like americans, be punished for a mistake their parents did? A life in a foreign country they're forced to adapt to only to realize that they really don't belong there and they have to either pick up and leave or be forced to a life of struggle here no matter what? The DREAM act is about illegal kids taking the opportunities americans are not willing to take and allowing these kids kids to put forth the time and effort to work for the so-called "American Dream". The DREAM act isn't a handout like you're implying, you should look more into the matter. Most large universities don't allow undocumented students to attend their schools and on top of that, even if these kids DO graduate they're stuck in a rut. Imagine being in a country your whole life (which you more than likely have been) and then being asked to go back to the country where your parents came from, with a language you may not have fully dominated and a culture that's pretty foreign to you. It's not that easy to go back by yourself and fix your legal status in a matter of months, especially in corrupt countries of which parents are running away from in the first place. Look more into the legal process and the amount of time it takes to get into the United States before coming to conclusions, thank you.
Frank Medina
9:12 pm on Monday, December 13, 2010
@itsnot...,
First off, the DREAM Act isn't about kids. At between 18-29 years of age, they are hardly children. Also, being in an illegal immigration status isn't the only crime DREAMers commit. They also use fraudulent documents to obtain jobs and are the leading culprits of identity theft. They also drive unlawfully and without insurance costing the rest of us billions in insurance premiums.
It is easy for all of them to go back to their countries of origin but they won't do so because they want to stay here and continue violating our laws.
And let's face it, as long as we continue giving benefits to illegal aliens, they will continue coming here in droves instead of staying in their countries of origin and changing their own countries. Imagine what would happen if all these aliens protesting here in the US went back to their countries and did the same. They would bring democracy to the world in no time!Finally, these so-called DREAMers are all primarily from one region of the world. Why aren't we trying to help the poor from Africa, Asia and Europe for instance? The DREAM Act then, isn't even fair to all illegal immigrants.
AT the end of the day though, this article was not about the DREAM Act as much as it was about congressmen who lie to their constituents in order to pass bills that are not good for the people who elected them. Did you miss that part of the story or do you not care about the raping of democracy by an elite power hungry few?
Frank Medina
9:16 pm on Monday, December 13, 2010
And as a former INS officer, international student advisor and member of the US intelligence community, I know the immigration process like the back of my hand. I also know that we admit over a million aliens legally each years and countless more nonimmigrants. The process is there and it works well. The problem begins with those people who feel that they are entitled to jump the line and get in first.
I get all my info from the visa bulletins, the various CFR's, and the USC. I'd be interested to know where you get your info from? Sound bites from MSNBC I presume?
David Olsen
8:07 am on Tuesday, December 14, 2010
@itsnotallaboutyou,
Parents sometimes do things that are wrong and their children end up suffering. Its very sad, just look at the Madoffs. If my parents did something wrong, I would not feel entitled to what they gave or tried to give me. I would be a bit embarrassed and do my best to make things right. However, there are no easy solutions. If the "children" have solid HS grades and decent SAT/ACT scores and follow whole list of other requirements then maybe they could get eventual visa/greencard status, but with a NO-CHAIN immigration clause strictly included. As part of the compromise document fraud by aliens should be made into a felony and seriously enforced.
Frank Medina
12:28 pm on Tuesday, December 14, 2010
@ David,
It's even easier than that. We already have a student visa process here in the U.S. Why not allow a select few so called DREAMers to get access to these visas and then let them compete with other international students for jobs. At the point of graduation, only the best of the best get to stay.
All it would take is an amendment to the 8 CFR to provide the waiver.
It really is that simple and I think the American people would support such a proposal.
I am not against DREAMers. I know several of them and know that they are bright and may be a great asset to our country at some point. However, I don't think they should benefit at the expense of equally or more deserving American students and legal residents.
ANd whether one supports the DREAM Act or not, one should not support the lies and shenanigans that take place in DC in order to pass these irresponsible pieces of legislation.
kobe
3:31 pm on Tuesday, December 14, 2010
Some of you are idiots. Asking people that grew up here and feel America, to go back to their homeland equates to someone asking you to go back to yours. Unless you’re Native American, anyone can ask you to go back to YOUR European, or your Middle Easter country. But, I’m pretty sure that this argument makes no sense to you. Think just for just a bit, how you would feel if you had grown up in America, feeling American, knowing only our American community and then being told that you are not American because you don’t have a piece of paper that says you’re a part of society. “Illegal immigrant Dreamers want to take away the Dreams of U.S. citizens” RIIIIIGGGHT. School is based on competition, I don’t understand how you would think they would be “taking” anything. Are you afraid of competition. If a piece of paper, or a few lines of code in a huge database say you’re a citizen, and that makes you better than anyone else, then you don’t have anything to worry about. But you don’t even want these people to prove their patriotism. Think above definitions and labels, we are human. Don’t take your hatred for yourself or your inability to achieve what these students are striving for, on them. All they are asking for is an opportunity not a free-ride. This would also produce 2.2 Billion for the country over the next decade. But if there is a hate, and it is racial, then man-up and say it.
kobe
3:33 pm on Tuesday, December 14, 2010
This is in no way amnesty, or a free pass, but a chance for these unfortunate youths, raised in the US, without their say, to be able to get into mainstream America, get educated and contribute to our richness, and be proud PRODUCTIVE citizens., Least we forget, the founding fathers approaching Plymouth Rock, and thinking what the Native Americans were thinking. history kinda repeats itself for the best
Frank Medina
5:33 pm on Tuesday, December 14, 2010
@ Kobe, so called DREAMers and their parents have the same opportunity to follow our laws as everyone else does. The problem is that they choose not to do so. See, these are choices that they have made as a family and now they want the U.S. taxpayer to pick up the tab for their bad decisions.
If opportunities are all they are asking for, then why does the bill offer them student loans, jobs under the work-study program and, lower the residency requirements for access to welfare specifically for them?
And I'd love to learn where you got your estimate that they would produce 2.2 billion ? I know you didn't mean dollars because even the CBO's estimates, as flawed as their study was, was lower than that.
By the way, the article was about Congressmen lying to the American public. Funny how you totally failed to bring up anything that was mentioned in the article and instead tried to insert the race card into this important debate.
Then again, I guess if someone advocates rewarding law breaking individuals by giving them free and open access to many of our entitlement programs, then having bold faced liars as congressmen is ok with you too.