Big drama queen.

Based upon previous posts, it is my opinion that Sandra Sims appears to be a graduate of the Chicago public school system-she has difficulty reading, writing and thinking. A 3 word sentence with no verb-that's quite an improvement for Sims.

Keep working on it Ms. Sims-soon you will be able to actually express an intelligent thought.

Another big drama queen, who probably holds forth for hours on end, with no one there but himself, just to hear the sound of his own voice and what he considers his pearls of wisdom. Then he comes on Patch and types it all out, hour after hour. The fact that rational people think he's a wingnut, just confirms his irrational wildly inflated opinion of himself. Also, he's a gasbag.

Dear Sandra, you expressed that very well!

OK, so, explain how I can afford this on a low income? HOW MUCH HIGHER WILL MY TAXES BE...because it seems that's how I'm going to be paying for my healthcare.

Billy Bob, we lived in such a country, Belgium, for 7 years. We had easy access to easy access to top level healthcare, everyone did. Yes, taxes are higher, but as a society, they've decided that much like education, it's important for everyone in their country (even us foreigners!) to have access to proper healthcare. It's stressfull enough to have a sick or injured love one, without the addess stress of wondering if you'll be able to access much needed care. When you go to the doctor there, there is no office staff, without a maze of insurance, none is needed...talk about cutting costs! I'm grateful that the Supreme Court has upheld the Affordable Healthcare Act...I'll take "Obamacare" over "Don't care" any day of the week.

@Steve Handwerker
Here is a breakdown of what ObamaCare is:
http://www.reddit.com/tb/vbkfm

It's easy to read and straightforward. I hope this clears up any confusion.

Yes, better outcomes in total. Check out the stats. The U.S. ranks 37th in the world in the effectiveness of health care treatmentsmeasured by the outcomes of obtaining treatment. That can be your new chant: "We are #37!"

Billy Bob, the fact you honestly think the USA is 37th in outcomes is downright scary. Countries fib their statistics to the "global health institutes" in order to look better, and the global socialists put it out there so ignorant American leftists like yourself actually believe it.

@Joe Nelson

Here is a breakdown of what ObamaCare is:
http://www.reddit.com/tb/vbkfm

It's easy to read and straightforward. I hope this clears up any confusion.

Actually, of those countries, only Greece has a public-generated debt problem (the others suffer from too much private debt--housing bubble sorts of thing--for which the governments are being asked to bail out private banks and which have caused downturns in the econonmies, leading to lower tax receipts). And a huge contributing factor is Greece's issue is their failure to actually collect the taxes they impose. None of those countries find their health care unaffordable or something they will no longer support. Quite the contrary. By the way, look at the Scandinavian countries for a real model!

Mary you need to listen more than you speak, if you know excatly and specifically what your talking about then you must be a phsyci and/or a genius. The details arent even on the table yet and you like all the other so called "well informed" people will keep this country right where it presently is??!!

Seems to be working out pretty well in Canada...

Here is a breakdown of what ObamaCare is:
http://www.reddit.com/tb/vbkfm

It's easy to read and straightforward. I hope this clears up any confusion.

Right on, Carol!

So what happens when doctors go John Galt on us? Who will perform your operation in a timely matter? The US government can't force people to become doctors if the supply drops. At least not how it was founded.....

Actually, most of us control our own health destiny-try exercising every day and eating right.

Yesterday, a friend of mine celebrated his 70th birthday. He could easily pass for 55 and mentally he's as sharp as a tack. He burns about 5,000 calories daily exercising and he eats whatever he wants, including desert.

Get off your rear end and walk. That's the way to cut health care costs in America. Cost: $0.

Doomed? Yes, if Romney gets in....which he won't!

Wrong Anne....the majority of Americans do want affordable healthcare.

Wrong, Ana Draa...
The majority of American's do NOT want to be forced to buy anything...especially, by the government. Everyone has health care. You cannot be turned away from the ER. Everyone does NOT have insurance. That is what this is about and forcing people to 'buy' it will not force people to use it.

Anne your wrong! Most people do want health care! We just want to stop the freeloaders from using the emergency room for free! Tons of people who can afford healthcare, but choose to spend their money differently. These people are the first to run to the emergency room and pass the buck onto all of us.

Anne you're wrong...

Ann, you are wrong. There is no provision to fine anyone who does not have healthcare. What this does is send a message to the insurance industry to tighten up your act and price it accordingly. This will open the door to those who can now choose which provider they wish for their healthcare. No longer will Congressioonal Representatives and Senators need to be influenced to friend those companies that have greased the wheel of the REps and Senators.
It will be the first time THE PEOPLE will have a choice! Also companies can stop not taking advantage of the tax credits offered when they offer employees Health benefits.

WAKE UP!

Amen! Too many people are drinking the Obama kool-aid and by the time they realize what he is doing to this country it will be too late. Have any of you considered all of the illegals that will now have full coverage? Who is paying for that? Check your insurance rates and watch how they contunue to rise. Need surgery? Stand in the long line just like Canada, why do you think they are coming to the US for surgery.

Yes, the majority of Americans want something for nothing. Who doesn't? Unfortunately, there is no free lunch. Somebody got to pay the lunch bill.

Here is a breakdown of what ObamaCare is:
http://www.reddit.com/tb/vbkfm

It's easy to read and straightforward. I hope this clears up any confusion.

Don't be duped by the socialist/fascist left wing and MSNBC talking points. This will not improve our healthcare system.

@ John Utah
I think you might be missinformed about what ObamaCare really is. Here is a breakdown of what ObamaCare is:
http://www.reddit.com/tb/vbkfm

It's easy to read and straightforward. I hope this clears up any confusion.

Matt, you are the one that is wrong. This will now open the floodgates of what the government will control which is every single part of your life, your families lives, your neighbors...etc. Once they say its "Ok" to force someone to purchase healthcare, they will start on every other aspect as well. You wont be able to buy what you want anylonger unless they give it the ok. Examples: your 32 oz of soda. Yes, I know its bad for me, I choose myself not to drink that amount. But on the very rare occasion I may get one, it may last me the entire day to drink as well. But its MY choice to do so. The government needs to stay out. Another example; you wont be able to choose what to give your child for a lunch for school. You will instead have to purchase one of the school's lunches (this is already happening out there). I can easily see the government just saying no to home-schooling as well in the very near future. They want our kids to be indoctrinated to their socialist beliefs. These are all my opinions of course, just like you gave yours. I've seen all these things coming for a long time. Just wait, you'll see it too.

Matt, I am a registered Democrat. This healthcare act is full of holes. It's not okay regardless of your political standing. Options are great, but even my many doctor friends are not in favor of this.

Hey Matt - apparently the Justices used the information regarding the Massachusetts plan to form their position. I guesss Romney is flip-flopping again!

Here is a breakdown of what ObamaCare is:
http://www.reddit.com/tb/vbkfm

It's easy to read and straightforward. I hope this clears up any confusion.

Well said Gary. I'm 28 and shutter to think where my lifespan is going....

Again, the constitution stops where the Internal Revenue Code begins

John,
We both know what your life is going to be like when you reach my age... and on behalf of my generation, and for what it's worth, I apologize.

We let this happen. We let leftists take over the schools in the late 60's and early 70's, and we did nothing to stop it. We let them stop teaching the benefits of free markets and limited government, or the dangers of centralized power, and let them continue their "Long March Through the Institutions of America" by teaching cultural relativism and the beneficence of the State.

It our fault. It's my fault. I saw all this happening over 25 years ago and convinced myself that someone else would pick up the ball. No one did. I waited until it was too late to get off my ass... we all waited too long. Shame on us.

The reward for our apathy will be a tremendous amount of suffering for an extended period of time. We have consigned your generation to one of servitude. I'm getting sick thinking about it.

Find a safe place and lock up a copy of the Federalist Papers, the Declaration of Independence, and the Constitution. When everyone has had enough pain they might be willing to listen to the message again.

You "shutter" to think? 28? Serioiusly, go back and retake 6th grade Englsh.

@Sandra - how smug elitist of you to rip me. Did that feel good? Maybe next time you'll spell seriously right....

Gary, pardon me, but I disagee. The November election will determine whether or not Obamacare stands.

Rich, the November election won't determine if it stands. Even if Willard wins, there is no chance of overturning. Fortunate.
Willard said the White House was not sleeping well. My guess is he's pulled the Ambian out. As Governor he implemented an almost identical healthcare plan and people like it. Doctors, hospitals, patients. Over 98% insured. The Heritage Society was for the individual mandate. A few sound bites at the right time and even Sheldon's Foreign Sands Casino money can't overcome the irony. Same old politics from the Republicans. Show trials, NRA score card and all.... Bunch of flatulent old men.

Here is a breakdown of what ObamaCare is:
http://www.reddit.com/tb/vbkfm

It's easy to read and straightforward. I hope this clears up any confusion.

perfect example that the constitution stops where the Internal Revenue Code begins

Here is a breakdown of what ObamaCare is:
http://www.reddit.com/tb/vbkfm

It's easy to read and straightforward. I hope this clears up any confusion.

Obama won the legal battle. The political battle is just starting RB....

You now live in a world where the 51% can do anything they want to the 49%. You might want to consider what might happen to you when YOU find yourself in the 49%.

You're going to be out there exhuming the Constitution, and waving it in our faces... but it's dead now. The Supreme Court has ruled, precedence has been set, and it can't be undone for at least a generation. There are no protections for anyone.

WE can now do anything we want to YOU when we win. Lefties never consider that possibility when they grant themselves unlimited power to re-engineer society. It's a blind spot.

Haha, good try Marlena. Illegals will still just walk into the ER and get treatment.

Seems to me Kirk has been taking full advantage of his taxpayer funded gubmint health care lo these many months.....

She is just a rubber stamp for the community organizer, that only voted 'present' on every vote when he was a Senator in IL. Cook County and the State of IL are forcing businesses and people out of our state due to politicians like the Pres, Jan Schackowsky, Madigan, Stroger, etc. We are killing the small businesses that made this country.

RB... the rattle you hear is the death rattle of a dying breed... LoL

What "Law"?

Decaf after noon!
Oh, the sky is falling!
Seriously, the past 2 years of flatulence by the Republican party is getting old. Pass a jobs bill (which the President has sent up), how about helping instead of whining all the time. Suddenly something is ruled constitutional and the sky is falling. Isn't that your biggest gripe? Whether something is constitutional? Well, the Affordable Care Act is, so be happy Tea Bagger, it's Constitutional!!!!

November.

Tea Bagger? Real classy. Hey all you independents reading these comments and not commenting.....there's the left for you.

RB thinks if the US Congress passes a "Jobs Bill", that unemployment will magically go down. He thinks Congress can just create permanent, long term jobs by saying so on paper. And that it all will be free! Nothing added to the debt, no more money printed for inflation.

U.S. Constitution, article 1, section 8 - "The Congress shall have the power to lay and collect taxes, duties, imposts and excises, to pay the debts and provide for the common defense and general welfare of the United States."
How has the Constitution been "thrown out the window"?

The Supreme Court just ruled that Congress can pass a law mandating that an individual has to behave a certain way, or face a penalty - oops - face a tax.

You tell me what's left of the constitution. What conceivable limit is there on federal power with this kind of precedence on the books? Nothing.

I am not overreacting here. I really don't see how anything is left of the constitution after this. For extra credit you can tell me all the ways Congress could abuse this new power to punish political enemies.

According to faux news?

Young people on health insurance, pre existing illness covered, increased competition, tort reform, no caps......and a small tax without penalty. Humanity to healthcare. Not such a bad thing. Heck, Romney had the idea! There's plenty of healthcare availability, it will now be affordable. This will be tweaked and improved even more. Many major Acts evolved.

Thanks RB for the Matthews/Maddow/Schultz/ODonnell viewpoint....

Can you explain how the "affordability" of medical insurance makes the cost of an MRI go down? Or the price per night in a hospital? Or the latex gloves the doctor uses?

Pure mindlessness on display today for the ignorant North Shore liberals...

John, perhaps you should ask that question of someone without health insurance. Today, they pay full retail rack rate for a night in the hospital. The AFFORDABLE care act brings costs to the level that everyone with insurance pays. A hospital charges much more than necessary because they have to write off so much for people without healthcare insurance. Do you think your homeowners insurance is insuring just your home, at the affordable rate you pay? You are the mindless one. And, the affordable care act is constitutional!

Your man Romney did all this already in Mass. They survived and love the system. Mandate, Tax, penalty the whole Thing. Romney, father of Obamacare.

RB, by your reasoning, hospitals in the North Shore should have amazing rates! Since probably 95% at least attending have medical insurance! Why are they so high?

Insurance for auto/home/life are affordable because market forces are involved. I go out and shop for the best deal at the coverage I want. Should be no different in health care. Nobody has a "right" to health care, since it requires someone else mutually and freely providing the service.

Keep spewing your right wing talking points.....read the constitution.....you might learn something.

DMZ, right back at you slick....

So I guess those states that require auto insurance don't have to anymore, right?

Ana you comparing Belgium with a population of around 10 million to the USA with a population of about 325 million. And saying it will run very smoothly

More mindless drivel. Single player in the USA will be the END OF GLOBAL HEALTHCARE AS WE KNOW IT. Long wait times, rationed care, poor service, shorter life spans. WE are the failsafe for the failed European models. Once we join them, IT'S OVER. See James comment about 325 million and growing people. Not to mention far as the eye can see trillion dollar deficits until everything collapses.

You leftists think you're so smart, but you have no idea....

Romneycare. You keep getting the name wrong. He suddenly has decided mandates are bad. Well, they are constitutional! (I love saying that). 3 minutes after the decision he's out there speaking against his own ideas! It's interesting how Mr. flip flop Willard Mitt no longer supports Romneycare. Heritage Foundation no longer supports mandates. They came up with the idea! Another thing, why would Willard Mitt insist that immigrants only gain legal status by serving in the armed services when he avoided service? Yep, several deferments later, he missed serving in Vietnam. Instead of fighting in the trenches, he was evangelizing in France under a 'minister' deferment. So, much of this spineless stuff about Willard is going to overwhelm any hope he has of winning. Mr. flip flip, off shore, out sourcing Willard, cowardly man of the people! Ha ha.

Looks like our country is moving back to the HMOs. They didn't work the first time. But, maybe forcing it on taxpayers will do the trick the second time around.

James, you are correct, Belgium has a population of approximately 10 million. France 65 million, Germany 81 million. Add them up, their total population is approximately half of the US. And all of these countries have single payer healthcare done very well. Here's another interesting fact, they include everyone in their country, and do so using only 10% of the GDP, compared to our system, which uses 17% percent of GDP, leaves out millions and has average outcomes. We can do better!

There are so many heartbreaking stories about American families being destroyed by healthcare debts. I have a friend in Houston who was in a motorcycle accident, suffered a tramatic brain injury. She had healthcare, went through the 1 million dollar lifetime maximum very quickly. Then her husband had to look for another source of insurance. In order to qualify for medicaid, they had to go through all of their hard earned assets, loss everything, so they could qualify. Yes, she now has her care paid for again, and they are in their late 50's, stripped of their assets and she'll never be albe to work again. It's a common horror story of what happens with catastrophic health bills in our system. Under The Affordable Care Act, lifetime limits go away, thank goodness!

I am so glad that President Obama is trying. Imgaine how much further he would get if all of congress and the senate would honor their commitments, work with him rather than purposely work for Obama's personal failure.

The European Union has socialized care but many have two tier systems. A private system in conjunction with a government system. Also, Europeans are less litigious.
The trial attorneys are supported by the democrats and no tort reform is in the works. Without tort reform, healthcare reform is worthless. Europeans feel healthcare is a right, pensions are a right , early retirement is a basic right and thats why the European Union is going bankrupt. Someone has to pay the piper.!!!!

Watch how Mr. "moderate" Dold votes.

Mr. Dold is no moderate....he'll be gone in January.

Great Point!

And as for the DOLD comment - from your mouth...!

3 wars, recession and Bush cut taxes. Gotta pay for something sometime.

Iraq, Afghanistan, Medicare Part D. two Bush tax cuts.....were all unpaid for....The ACA is paid for...now that's being responsible.

If you can get the mindless out of Congress perhaps we coud be more effective!

Maybe those who will be out of insurance coverage, due to the changes enacted in Illinois, as of Sunday will once again find affordable coverage!

That's true. Medicaid cannot be the instrument for universal health care, It is supported by state government and is run horrendously. As a physician I stopped taking medicaid because of government non payment. All we hear is that Illinois has no money and services cannot be paid. So what doctor will take Medicaid. The premise is completely flawed and will fall apart. THe poor will have an insurance no
doctor will accept.

Dan you are incorrect. You will be fined if you don't buy insurance. You just don't have to pay the fine and there is no penalty for not paying fine

James...therefore...there is no fine.

Yup J.Lyn and there fore nothing is chaned your health insurance will go up to pay for uninsured

Mr. Pritzker, could you please tell all of us what a "tea bagger" is? You need to have your mouth washed out with soap.

The GOP is coming up with some really hairbrained ideas but still have no plan how to replace this coverage when they try to repeal this Act. This was a historic day, brought peace of mind to people denied healthcare, needing coverage for sick children, small business will be able to provide healthcare for employees and on and on. Did you see the Texas GOP platform? It just came out today..."We urge Congress to repeal government sponsored programs that deal with early childhood development". That's the kind of thinking we are up against. Dumbing of America and it won't work. This was a good day and....it is CONSTITUTIONAL!

Scott Nelson: "I hope Joe Lieberman gets hit by a bus."

What kind of person is anyone who would say such a thing?

What you're complaining about makes no sense. People carry insurance cards today. If you happen to not have it with you, things get worked out. I've seen nothing requiring a card in your hand before they would give you care. also, there is no provision to turn away someone without insurance. There is a provision to tax them $95 first year so that they will get insurance like anyone with brains would do.

RB, what happens if you can't afford to pay the $95? If you can't afford the $95, you can't afford to buy health care insurance either.

President Fidel Obama, I mean President Barack Castro, has sunk the economy. I didn't move to Florida for the sunshine. I moved to Florida to find work. I know people who have been out of work for 2 years and longer. They can't afford to buy food-do you really think that, if you can't afford to buy food becaue Obamacare wrecked the American economy, they are going to pay the tax for not having health insurance?

Obamacare destroyed the American economy. What good is health care insurance if you can't afford to buy food or afford the rent for shelter?

Something tells me you've got a job-probably a government job-and you're asking yourself: recession, what recession? Yes, RB, 46 million Americans are receiving food stamps because they don't have enough money to buy food. In the America that I knew before President Fidel Obama assumed office, anybody who wanted a job could get a job and buying food and paying rent wasn't an issue.

Since President Fidel Obama was elected in 2008, all of that has changed. Why?

The answer to that question is that there is no difference between Castro, Chavez and Obama.

I have a choice of doctors. The doctor has to be on Staff at a hospital. You just can't say I e that Hospital better lets go their

Last time I checked, Senator Kirk was an American citizen. To quote Hillary Clinton, "We are Americans and we have a right to debate." Since Senator Kirk is an American citizen, it would seem that he can express his opinion on Obamacare too, at least according to Hillary Clinton.

No Lucas, the uninsured will just pay a tax and still walk in the ER for free....

No, there won't be any doctors to treat you, so it won't really matter if you have insurance or not. . . . that's cool-we'll all be equal then.

Hmmmm. . . . the majority of Americans ("We the people") oppose Obamare.

Let's put Obamacare to a vote. . . . .if you support Obamacare, vote for the Democrats on election day; if you oppose Obamacare, vote for Republicans on election day. Pretty damn simple.

Rich, once again your mind is wandering. Like it did when you so boldly predicted the court would overturn. This was a clear win for Mr. Obama and The American People. As far as the new Tax,that's nothing other than Faux news talking points. If someone chooses not to buy insurance, they should pay a tax. Someday they will need healthcare and we should not have to pay for it as we do today. It's a major fix to a broken system, but you don't see that with the blinders on. Romney saw it, and the Heritage Foundation saw it too. They just changed their mind when Mr. Obama finally got it done, and it's constitutional!

RB, the basis for the Obamacare decision came out of left field somewheres. Hard to predict outliers.

Note that conservatives correctly predicted the results of Wisconsin recall election of Governor Walker. Perhaps our accuracy in predicting Supreme Court decision is not so great, but we call the important stuff, like elections, correctly.

The 2012 election will follow the 2010 election model-landslide Republican victory. The TEA party produced the 2010 landslide and will produce the 2012 landslide.

Stopping the implementation of Obamacare is relatively easy-President Romney will follow President Obama lead and just ignore the law. President Obama set the precedent of ignoring legally mandated laws and Romney will follow Obama's precedent.

Be careful of what you wish for-you just might get it.

"Instead, even as he cast a powerful vote to rein in the Commerce Clause as our Founding Fathers intended for it to be applied against federal intrusiveness, Chief Justice Roberts returned Obamacare front-and-center back into the November elections debate. Defining it for what it really is -- a new, enormous federal tax on at least four million Americans"

Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/06/the_chief_justice_done_good.html#ixzz1zDVBWWXh
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absolutely agree.

A lot of people, my wife and a list of others I know, had fallen asleep about all this OboboCare.
After the SCOTUS ruling my wife started finally reading about the law, as did about half of those others, and all of them are PISSED now that they are beginning to understand what they should have known 18 months ago.

My wife wasnt even going to bother to vote this year but thanks to Justice Roberts and keeping ObozoCare alive and exposing that it IS a tax (hello...tied into IRS....TAX....get it?) and she sees how it works more clearly she's voting like I am.....for ANYONE BUT Obama....

This is an excellent article on the American Thinker website. Chief Justice Roberts did an excellent job of framing the Obamacare issue for the 2012 election. To paraphrase James Carville, it's Obamacare, stupid.

The S.S. Obama just hit another iceberg and in 4 months will be joining the Titanic at the bottom of the ocean.

As long as the SCOTUS was working on this....and the fact that Roberts looks to have initially been against the 'mandate' it wouldnt suprise me to find out that the man did what he did intentionally to damage Obobo having any chance of reelection.

"Government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem." Ronald Reagan

Solutions? Conservatives already have the solutions-no need to work on the solutions a whole bunch. Common sense is the solution to most problems. Conservatism is 99.47 percent common sense.

Rich, as you quote dead Presidents I would like to give you a Romney quote from an op-Ed about RomneyCare that he wrote for USA today in 2009.
"First, we established incentives for those who were uninsured to buy insurance. Using tax penalties, as we did, or tax credits, as others have proposed, encourages "free riders" to take responsibility for themselves rather than pass their medical costs on to others"