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Gunshots Caused Damage At Dempster and Bronx, Police Say

Witnesses said they heard gunshots just before 8:20 p.m.

 

Witnesses reported hearing gunshots Sunday just before 8:20 p.m., Skokie police said. The sound of the shots followed an argument between two groups of people. Police described one group as being male whites driving in a silver Ford Windstar minivan. 

The other group, also described as male whites or Hispanics, were seen standing between two buildings, according to police. A Ford Windstar and picture window frame were later discovered damaged by the bullets. 

Police are investigating this incident and have assigned additional patrols to the area. Anyone with information is asked to contact Detective John Long at 847/933-5950. Information also may be reported to the Skokie Police Department automated Crime Tip Hotline, 847/933-TIPS (8477).

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Marlena Jayatilake September 07, 2013 at 11:42 AM
Local resident "infected areas" means the areas in which crime has escalated to an alarming rate. Let me share something with you that I have never divulged because my past was never necessary until now. As most know, I am an African American female, homeowner in Skokie and I am a business owner. What you don't know is that I was born and raised in "Englewood on the Southside of Chicago." I'm sharing this because I want people to understand that Englewood has wonderful people and lots of whom are caught in the middle of decades long drug and violent crime waves that brew daily. Most people can't get out due to lack if money. I put myself thru college because I know that education is the key to break the chains of poverty and opens doors to a better life for me and my family. There are often remarks about "blacks" and section 8 being the reason for the influx of crime. Well we know thru Patch and well, this story, that blacks are not the only ones. Now putting that to the side, there is a criminal element that I see growing in Skokie AND if its not stopped by citizens, Skokie's way of life will be altered in ways no law abiding homeowner or renter will be able to stomach. If you read some of my older posts you will see I have challenged those who just came right out and said "since blacks moved in, crime has risen in Skokie." I came to Skokie for its safety AND growing diversity. What I am concerned about are the "infected areas/criminal element." Skokie PD is doing a great job but what is clear to me with my background is that they don't really know how to combat this type of "daily" violence, because, to be frank, they have never had to deal with it on such a large scale. Still overall, I have seen great improvement in the way Skokie PD has been stepping up and handling or rather catching the criminals. That is only my opinion. Patricia I read the patch daily as you do and well some of the remarks are deplorable BUT I know that all residents of Skokie don't feel that way. My only objective is to have a village hall meeting so that we can voice our concerns and share ideas on how to combat this. Local Resident, this isn't a blame game this is about restoring Skokie and stopping this criminal behavior before it spreads because it will. Just look at Englewood......it was a wonderful neighborhood in the 60's. Let's work together and stop this racial blame game and swipes at one another, its not about that. I will post on this thread the village hall meeting updates. Peace and prosperity to all......
J September 07, 2013 at 11:50 AM
Skokie Resident. To answer your question, No, neither are okay. And to generalize and say that about sec-8 or jews as landlords is just plain wrong. That's all I was pointing out.
Patricia September 07, 2013 at 12:40 PM
Marlena you and I share common roots. There are wonderful people in and from Englewood. I've been on the Northshore since 1982. My children were born and raised on the Northshore. I judge people not by their religious affiliation or lack thereof, but rather by my interactions with them. Wish more people behaved that way and you would figure out that we are more alike than dissimilar.
Marlena Jayatilake September 07, 2013 at 12:53 PM
Thank you Patricia. I wish the world felt the same....then maybe just maybe we can begin to heal and understand that this is not a racial problem, its a criminal problem AND at the end of the day it doesn't matter if a black person robs me or a white person robs me....I've still been robbed :) Enjoy your day!
Cat Lover September 07, 2013 at 01:59 PM
Marlena, you are right. This is a criminal problem. For over 30 years I worked in a government agency that was predominately Black. I was one of the few Whites. My comfort level with my colleagues was fine and I made many friends and acquaintances. My Black colleagues often made comments about how the Section 8 buildings had ruined their neighborhoods. It was okay for them to make this remark; however, when a White makes this comment we are labeled racist. Several years ago I was sad to see an educated Black family move off the block and be replaced by a low income white who never paid the rent and paraded around in short shorts three sizes too small. I live on a block where a Jewish neighbor refuses to acknowledge my presence, even though I am highly educated, well read and frequent the Chicago Symphony and the finest restaurants. His wife and the other Jewish neighbors are lovely; however, this guy won't even say hi when I greet him. I live on a block that is very stable and many have spent lots on improving their properties. We have had two households that have engaged in some unscrupulous criminal behaviors in the past. One was White and the other was Black. Both were viewed negatively. Our area is culturally mixed and we have not treated anyone negatively due to their ethnicity, except for the one Jewish neighbor that refuses to speak to me and numerous others who are not of Jewish faith.
Skokie Mom September 07, 2013 at 02:34 PM
I've been reading the crime blotter weekly since I arrived here after being robbed at gunpoint in Rogers Park 18 years ago. Marlene (so nice to meet you!), I was robbed by a black and white man working together. The criminals come in all colors. The bottom line is that Skokie needs a plan, or families like mine will be forced to move to neighborhoods that feel less vulnerable. There is no point in being locked up in ones house and not letting ones children walk or bike in their own neighborhood. So let's do this together, all of us.
Marlena Jayatilake September 07, 2013 at 02:57 PM
Thank you Cat Lover and Lori. Its so wonderful to work together as a community, we can get so much done that way. Skokie is such a wonderful place to live and raise children and i adore the diversity! With that being said, I'm going to call the village on Monday to see about an informal meeting of the minds to share ideas and have open and honest communication. Also its a good idea to share information that the police may not be aware of since they can't be everywhere at all times. I will post here on Monday. Thank you all so much. Peace and blessings!
Patricia September 07, 2013 at 03:35 PM
I guess you live and learn everyday. I didn't know Section 8 was a derogatory term for blacks, I thought it was a derogatory term for people who were financially challenged. My frame of reference with Section 8 came from living in Lake County where every immigrant that I knew, mainly Russian at the time, had Section 8, ESL classes and LINK, formerly called 'food stamps'. My issue with the program as I knew it was that I knew of Americans whom had paid into the system who were down on their luck and couldn't get assistance. I didn't understand how someone who had never paid into the system qualified for such assistance when others did not. Let me say I have no problems with Russians are those who truly need assistance, I was just taught that charity begins at home. I guess others define home differently than I do.
Cat Lover September 07, 2013 at 04:18 PM
Each ethnicity has it's underclass, whether they are White, Black or Asian. The White underclass is not concentrated in this specific area. They can be found in droves outside of Cook County and especially downstate Illinois. Meth labs and meth use is frequent in many of these areas; however, not all poor Whites engage in this behavior. Along with the meth use comes high levels of crime. Currently this is not a problem in Skokie and hopefully never will be. If it does become a problem, I will be one of the first to voice concern over the presence of White underclass meth users in Skokie!
D. Sanchez September 07, 2013 at 09:09 PM
The article does not mention, or even hint at, Section 8. If your response to the article is that all the citizens of Skokie receiving Section 8 assistance should be run out of town, you either suffer from poor reading skills or senility.
James S. Nasby September 07, 2013 at 11:13 PM
FWIW, the parts of the Village with the highest crime rates are, in fact, those with the highest (non-senior) Section 8 renters. Not all section 8 renters are criminals; but, the concentrations are both obvious and factual.
shp September 08, 2013 at 11:50 AM
To Marlene Jayatilake - Please post the date and time of any Skokie townhall meeting. Not sure how long you have lived in Skokie, but the first and only townhall meeting to date was in June, 2010 and arranged be the Skokie Voice group. Residents expressed the concerns as many people state above, but it seems the problem has escalated. The Skokie Voice group arranged public presentations on crime, schools, economic development (something the Village should have been doing) and the Village officials still are not addressing the increased crime in Skokie. Yes, the SPD are doing a great job, but they are chasing the crime not preventing crime. If you followed the April election, the Skokie Caucus party promoted that crime is down in Skokie and has not increased in 10 years, but dispite that independents ran for the trustee positions, the Caucus party remains in office to continue the status quo. It's a crooked system in Skokie and I'm not confident there will be ANY change in politics until there is a change in Village officials. A change in leadership will bring a different approach and vision to Skokie. I will definately attend the townhall meeting.
Marlena Jayatilake September 08, 2013 at 02:53 PM
Hi Shp. I have been living in Skokie since 2002 as a renter and then as a home owner in 2004. That's not a long time but it is long enough to know what a wonderful place we live in! However, as a teenager I worked in Skokie which was when I fell in love with this village and vowed that I would return to buy a home here one day. I have seen a dramatic change just in that short amount of time. It saddens me but also empowers me to do something about it. I am going to post, hopefully tomorrow the dealings that I will have with the village tomorrow morning. This time, unlike in the past maybe they will listen or when its time to vote, be replaced. I think the village is aware that the patience of all law abiding Skokie residents is beginning to wear thin and that change needs to happen, now.
Tantor September 08, 2013 at 05:11 PM
Seems like you law abiding folks in Skokie are having increasing problems with burglaries, thefts, muggings, beatings, etc. Perhaps you should scoot over to Evanston. Here we barely have any crime since the City Council banned semiautomatic rifles ("assault weapons") early this year. Now we have almost no vandalism, gang graffiti, burglaries, thefts, muggings, shootings in the air, and murders, except those committed by those Tea Party types who are still responsible for over 50% of the crime in Evanston although they make no more than 12 or 13 % of the population. If you don’t want to move to Evanston, perhaps you could try paying for and putting up, like we Evanstonians do, some of those big Buddha heads on the public lawns. They help reduce crime a lot by inducing a Zen-like state in the potential vandals, gang graffiti writers, burglars, thiefs, muggers, shooters, and murderers here in Evanston.
James S. Nasby September 08, 2013 at 06:32 PM
Tantor -- I don't know the facts and statistics in Evanston; but, I can, and do, object to your name calling. As for the rest, I, for one, don't understand.
D. Sanchez September 09, 2013 at 10:02 AM
That's not true, Tantor. The Tea Party types are not responsible for a majority of crime. However, they are responsible for a majority of inbreeding.
Lisa Lipin September 17, 2013 at 12:15 AM
Interesting Village Board meeting tonight. There was a large group of residents there who were organized and made a prepared statement to the Mayor and Trustees about public safety and crime. The residents comments were spot on. It was very clear that residents do not feel safe and do not believe that crime is merely a "perception issue" but rather crime is "reality" in Skokie. Once again, the Mayor stated that "overall crime has decreased" which members of the audience clearly were not buying. He also said that in one of the recent shooting incidents that the person was not from Skokie. it seemed that he was missing the point that residents are concerned because the violent crime took place in Skokie. The fact that the person was not from Skokie does not make residents feel any safer. The residents who spoke asked the Mayor to commit to hosting a Town Hall meeting. The Mayor did say that the planning for such a meeting is underway with details to follow. In the meantime, be vigilant and call the Skokie Police to report concerns.
Marlena Jayatilake September 17, 2013 at 12:33 AM
Hello all. I had a meeting with both chief Scarpelli and the village assistant John Lockerby. The meeting was rather long. However, I have crime statistics and additional information you may be surprised to hear. I will post everything in the morning. Because we had a one on one of sorts, I have lots of information to share
Pam DeFiglio (Editor) September 17, 2013 at 12:42 AM
Marlena, I think it might be best to start a blog post so that what you have to say gets its own place on Patch--not in the comments at the end of another article. To post, click on this link: skokie.patch.com/blogs/new
Marlena Jayatilake September 17, 2013 at 12:54 AM
Thank you Pam. I will do that in the morning.
shp September 17, 2013 at 09:36 AM
Marlena - While I commend you for being a good citizen, and wanting to get involved, there are Skokie residents who have been following the crime in Skokie for the past 5 - 10 years Three years ago a townhall meeting was held and over 500 people attended. Crime did get the attention after this meeting, but not enough attention to the source of the problem and still has not been addressed. This is why the SV housing committee spent over a year revising the current multi-family housing ordinance to give more authority to police and landlords when problems arise with bad tenants. It's been almost two years and this ordinance has hit a road block and has not been approved. Crime statistics have been gathered by SV, a presentation was done to the Village officials, and there still isn't a revised multi-family ordinance. How long do we need to wait. Unfortunately, the residents don't get to decide. I'm writing all of this from memory because I was involved in all of it. I'm guessing since the Caucus Party won the election, there is no urgency to address the crime issue as you are trying to address now. I'm writing to you so you know what has already been done. There are many, many long time Skokie residents who are not pleased with the Village's response to crime in Skokie as you would have watched last night at the Village board meeting. And as you heard from the Police Chief that "overall" crime is down in Skokie. Does that make you feel safer?? I'm not discouraging you, but rather you may want to join forces with an existing group. New energy is always needed. Thanks again and I look forward to your blog.
James S. Nasby September 17, 2013 at 10:03 AM
Although I'm only a few courses away from a B.A. in Math, I don't understand how "overall" our crime rate is down. If we've already had 2 or 3 shooting incidents this year, then this must mean that we've had more than this in prior years. Or do these count the same as all other crimes such as parking violations or other traffic crimes? "I'm so confused . . ."
Steve Mottel September 17, 2013 at 12:07 PM
James, it is a play on words. Nothing more. Typical from politicians without any respect for Skokie citizens or themselves. Marlena, keep pushing!!!! SHP, good points!
Marlena Jayatilake September 17, 2013 at 01:48 PM
Hello there Steve. Since my notes were quite long, I just posted in a new blog called A Concerned Skokie Resident. Let me add that I made a typo in Fact #1. It should have Robberies instead of burglaries. And the phone number listed is not correct. It should have said if you see suspicious activity call the non emergency number and for emergencies by all means call 911 immediately. I am going to make that correction now. Just wanted you to know it was posted.
Marlena Jayatilake September 17, 2013 at 01:51 PM
Thanks SHP for the info. I'm always ready to roll up my sleeves and join in :)
Local Resident September 17, 2013 at 10:36 PM
Marlena, I am still back at square one with understanding what "people of section 8 " have PROVEN regarding crime in Skokie. You were convinced at the numbers given to you by the chief and village manager, according to that, crime is down on a average, so these people whom always seem to be blamed for crimes, that have gone down on a average, continue to somehow be targeted? It appears to me they have made scapegoats for a place to put blame. The question you should have proposed is regarding the registration of all rental tenants and owners in Skokie. Is this a standard in Skokie ? Evanston and other surburbs do require it. Palatine is extremely serious about it. We have no idea whom are residents of Skokie. Nor does the police. If a crime is committed, the criminal provides a address, if it is a Skokie resident, the owner then made aware.This should be checked by a village registry to match criminal with address to property owner. Landlords should then be held accountable for their tenants behavior for crimes committed in this village. What about owners, there should be a deterrent for owners as well, committ a crime in this village, face a penalty from littering to shop lifting to violent crimes. We have 3 new families on my block since June, 2 are section 8 and they have not been a problem. They shared the hardships of locating decent owners whom would not discriminate or have a pre conceived idea regarding them. Both families have students attending college and working and kids catching the school bus every morning. Marlena, what you did in my point of view is have the wool puled over your eyes by village officials to ensure a report that crime is dropping. As well you did to people what is done on this thread, throw a group of people under the bus and made them scapegoats. You stated you are a minority woman from Englewood whom pulled yourself up from statistics to become educated and a renter to a owner in 2 years. You have been a part of this community since 2002 you stated, I have been in the North Shore since 1981. Evanston, Wilmette, Northbrook and now my second round at Skokie. What is being stated about "section 8 people" was stated about people such as yourself, from the inner city moving to Skokie. You wanted a life and community for yourself and family to thrive and plant roots and foundation. Which is why it bothers me so much that you would actually entertain any fallacy to put mandates on "certain people". You were considered "certain people" at one time in Skokie. I can't applaud you for your representing the community, it seems to me you represented yourself in your one on one as overzealous to prove you are different. The same situation you defended here on Patch regarding labels on people, you feel into at your meeting.
Patricia September 18, 2013 at 12:05 AM
Local Resident I too. read Marlena's blog. Tell one of the many people who were mugged or who's houses were broken into that over all crime is down and wait for their response. Numbers can and have been manipulated in many instances. I can't say this is the case here. I can say in the almost 15 years that I've lived here, things have changed and not for the better. I too have seriously considered leaving Skokie because of the changes. It doesn't matter if you divide the crime by five, as was done in the report, or one hundred, if I've been robbed or had my home violated, it doesn't matter to me what's said. If you are my neighbor, you too should be concerned because if they rob my house today, they may hit yours too. Crime is all of our problem. If you see something out of the ordinary, call the police! We must take back our community from the criminals while remaining a diverse and inclusive community. Both can be done - they aren't mutually exclusive.
Marlena Jayatilake September 18, 2013 at 01:32 AM
Wow, didn't see that one coming! Go back and read all of my past posts and get a more clear picture of me. If you actually read my posts you might see I never said all Section 8 residents were bad. I'm just trying to find out about crime in Skokie. What you are accusing me of certainly will not be entertained by me. That's really not what we are here for. I'm sorry you feel that way. Peace & Blessings
Jordan S. Zoot September 18, 2013 at 09:27 AM
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Local Resident September 18, 2013 at 11:21 AM
I agree Patricia. It seems that Skokie residents are gonna have to start cleaning house from the highest levels down at Village Hall. I just returned 1 year ago and the crimes I have read about, not compiled with what my neighbors have experienced is overwhelming. We know we will always have crime of some sort, 1 shooting is 1 too many. How many has Skokie seen in the past few months? And across the board this is a decrease?

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