Shots Fired Near Skokie's New CTA Station

Almost a dozen squad cars responded to a shooting near the new CTA Oakton Stop in downtown Skokie. A picture shows about eight shots were fired at the scene. Police said there were no injuries.

Updated 9:02 p.m. ~

About a dozen squad cars responded to a shooting near the new CTA Yellow Line station at Oakton Street and Skokie Boulevard on Thursday around 5:00 p.m., said police Sgt. John Moersfelder.

Witnesses told police that a male subject, standing on the north sidewalk of Oakton Street, displayed a semi automatic pistol and fired multiple times in the direction of a vehicle traveling westbound in the curb lane, police said. The offender then fled on foot from the scene.

The driver would ultimately stop a short distance from the initial shooting and both occupants were said to be uninjured, according to police. All in all, a total of eight shots were fired.

Meanwhile, police have detained a man that they believe is in connection with the shooting, they said. The initial investigation is said to be a possible domestic dispute between the victims and the offender, police said.

Service on the Oakton Stop temporally stopped, but resumed about an hour later. The last policeman on scene left slightly before 7 p.m.

Hakim Wafaq, an employee at Marathon Gas Station at Skokie Boulevard and Oakton Street, told Skokie Patch that he did not hear any gunshots, but added that there was a lot of police activity around 5 p.m.

The CTA also noted that the alleged incident did not happen within the CTA Oakton Stop. 

Because the incident is under investigation, no further details are available at this time. Check Skokie Patch soon for an update. 

Eugene Salganik June 16, 2012 at 02:33 PM
Who the hell wanted to live in New York's lower east side a few years back? You should see it now. Skokie is not that bad, it takes imagination and hard work to make it work. Complaining does not get you anywhere.
Steve Mottel June 16, 2012 at 02:56 PM
Another of Skokie's finest: http://skokie.suntimes.com/news/13224316-418/20-year-old-charged-in-skokie-shooting.html
Rudy J June 16, 2012 at 08:41 PM
Trust me, this is hiding. Neighborhoods change - it happens, folks. People have the right to live where they want. No one is perfect and everyone has made bad choices. Do the best you can to improve your community if you are so inclined. This harsh name calling and complaining solves nothing. Section 8 is to blame? Animal and ghetto thugs? Back to where they came from? Really? "Those people" all came from somewhere else, is that correct? This stinks of racism. Open your eyes. Again, count your blessings and move on.
Steve Mottel June 16, 2012 at 08:57 PM
What this stinks of is reality, Rudy J. Open your eyes
KK June 16, 2012 at 11:08 PM
Been a resident of Skokie all my life, whether you live in the vicinity of the struggling "downtown" or Old Orchard and everywhere in between, gone are the days where children were able to play in the park without parents worrying about sexual predators, getting mugged or kidnapped. Gone are the days when you were able to sleep with your doors & windows unlocked or camp out in the back yard! The news today stated it was a 20 yr old RESIDENT of Skokie who did this....not anyone jumping on the yellow line from the red line. I agree that in time, the new stop will bring additional thefts & possible vandalism to the area directly around the Science & Tech Park and the residental areas to the east & west. The area directly to the south by Aldi is in bad shape and getting worse by the minute thanks to section 8. I strongly believe, with the $14+M of funding that cameras surrounding the new stop and/or security should be a part of the planning, is it? I know first hand, having witnessed a kid w/a bat swinging @ a driver a few months ago exactly in the same spot the shooting occured, there needs to be cameras & a more visible police presence in the affected neighborhoods. Skokie crime has definitely gone up and it's time to be heard and seen as tax paying citizens. I worry every night about the well being of my elderly parents who have been residents here for 50+ yrs for whom it's not financially feasible to pick up and move. Crime and domestic violence is up in Skokie...period.
anna June 17, 2012 at 12:56 AM
A basic problem is that these rules are on the books, but it takes resources to enforce them. The vouchers are granted by the feds and administered by the county. But the Village of Skokie has not dedicated sufficient resources to adequate staffing of the police and property standards departments for the necessary follow-up. More Skokie cops and inspectors are needed to work in conjunction with the Housing Authority of Cook County and the Skokie school districts to make sure that when occupancy rules are broken, proper action can be taken. Further, the Village needs to hold landlords accountable for the tenants from whom they earn revenue. In other words, while the Village has no control over the number of vouchers in circulation, it does have control over monitoring and enforcement, to some degree. The public needs to exert pressure on Village officials to reprioritize the allocation of existing resources so these problems can be addressed. Maligning all voucher holders as a group and suggesting that they "go back to where they came from" (as someone does below) does nothing to move toward a solution. In 2013 the mayor and trustees are up for re-election. Start thinking about that NOW.
Frank June 17, 2012 at 01:11 AM
I think it's important for all the people who feel so strongly about all thes issues attend the Skokie Voice meeting Weds night at Oakton Park. Finally an opportunity for Village management, or in the case lack of management.....to hear the voice of public opinion.
AP June 17, 2012 at 07:04 AM
The rental market has been tough the last few years, and a lot of landlords unfortunately chose to fill their buildings with Sec 8 voucher holders with that guaranteed. Very recently things have improved a little; there seems to be some better tenants in the market. Unfortunately, there are a lot of run down buildings owned by scumbag landlords who refuse to invest in updating and improving their buildings to attract better tenants. They are the real problem. I agree 100% with everything Steve Mottel has posted here.
AP June 17, 2012 at 07:05 AM
*guaranteed rent.
Steve Mottel June 17, 2012 at 12:34 PM
Skokie Voice Community Forum on Public Safety Wednesday, June 20 * 7-9 p.m. * Oakton Community Center http://www.skokievoice.org/calendar.html I encourage all concerned residents and people who work in Skokie to attend
Steve Mottel June 17, 2012 at 02:23 PM
Everyone concerned about this issue and crime/safety in general should contact the mayors office and voice their concerns. They should also request his prescence at the Skokie Voices public forum on crime this Wednesday the 20th of June. Mayors office 847/933-8269 Skokie Voice Community Forum on Public Safety Wednesday, June 20 * 7-9 p.m. * Oakton Community Center http://www.skokievoice.org/calendar.html Also, contact Skokie Voice and ask them to request the mayors prescence at this meeting. Tell your friends, neighbors etc. Those of us on this forum are aware of this crime and others recently but you would be surprised how many residents DO NOT KNOW about these crimes. Thanks
George Slefo (Editor) June 17, 2012 at 10:54 PM
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Longtime Skokie Resident June 18, 2012 at 05:17 PM
I have to wonder why these gun-happy thugs with their semi-automatic guns in residential neighborhoods don't join the U.S. Army and shoot off the big guns in a real war. Could it be that they are really cowards?
Shawn Fynn June 19, 2012 at 02:24 AM
Call Illinois Representative Louis Lang's office and tell him you're for lawful concealed carry in Illinois. Illinois is the only state without some form of concealed carry, Illinois also has no death penalty, the thugs that prey on law abiding, tax paying citizens know this and are not afraid of the consequences if they actually kill someone. You wouldn't have to carry a gun if didn't want to, or if you did, you would be quietly and privately protecting your neighbors. Every state that has enacted concealed carry has had a drop in crime, Trust me, the thugs don't want the risk of ending up at the North Shore's ER if there was concealed carry allowed in Illinois. When seconds, the Police (Even in Skokie) are minutes away...
40 year resident June 19, 2012 at 03:03 AM
I live close to the yellow line. I work downtown occasioanlly and I am afraid to walk through the apartment area due to gangs, and the police don't come when you call.Long time residents who live there now have to have parking permits and pay apt fees. My neighbor who uses two canes, has to walk up to his sister's apt and get a parking permit, then walk downstairs, get the permit, and bring it back upstairs.Ridiculous. Make it hard for old residents, easy for new gangbangers. Who will run against Van Dusen?
40 year resident June 19, 2012 at 03:18 AM
A friend who lives on Lamon is the only person not living in a section 8 building on her block. I'm tired of city reps saying they are just the elderly - yeah - elderly who bring their grandkids from the city. The police are nonexistent near the yellow line where I live. I see them several times a year, if that often, even when I called for extra patrol when my elderly mother was home alone. I called police about a thief stealing from cars, never even saw the cops come. Then my neighbor told me that someone was casing my house, and she called the police. The police never contacted me. And I agree that low class people are moving in. I live on a corner. Daily I find food bags, cans, bags with empty liquor bottles thrown out of car windows, doggie delight on my lawn and driveway. While these are not terrible crimes, it is just a sign of the new residents lack of regard for the neigborhood and respect for others. Kids living in the apts around Main/Skokie cross in the middle of the streets rather than at the corners, and against the lights. We At Main and Skokie the convenient store and the gas station were robbed recently within weeks of each other during daylight hours. That must have been terrifying for the cashiers. What are the police doing about this? Near Keeney/Kostner a man tried to break into first floor window when the family was home. Police didn't find anyone, and there was no followup to the family. Put up cameras!
Frank June 19, 2012 at 11:58 AM
Good news! I hear the mayor isn't going to run again....create a dangerous situation, and bail. Job well done Mr. Mayor.
Michael Patrick June 19, 2012 at 01:27 PM
I grew up in the area and spent a great deal of time Downtown Skokie as that's where friends, etc. lived. A couple of news flashed for you "longtime" (20 years!) residents...Downtown was on its last legs in the mid-70s. A few stores hung on thru customer loyalty and sheer force of will. Talk of "reviving" Downtown started in the late 70s and was one reason for the flood control project of the 80s...Friends and I called the Hull/Lamon area a "ghetto" in the late 70. The 4-unit co-ops-had already transitioned from owner-occuppied to mostly rental units by that time, leaving the area "run-down"...Oakton Bowl (if you can't remember it you have no right to comment on Skokie's "decline") was off-limits. The troublemakers ruled and visitors were not welcome...Niles Township High Schools were NOT safe havens of education. The inmates ran the asylum. "Greasers" ruled the bathrooms. Open Campus policy turned Old Orchard into a youth hangout/smoking lounge. In response, the schools created school-sanctioned smoking areas for students. Niles North students referred (reefered?) to theirs as the "toking lounge"...How about Murphy's and White House? The bar at East Prairie and Golf? With the exception of the Hul/Lamon ghetto, all these blights have been removed either directly by or thru the efforts of members of the current council/manager team. Toss your rose-colored glasses. Frame the debate factually. Give credit as due.
KT June 19, 2012 at 01:31 PM
Agree with Mike. It's not like the train is a new thing, it's just a new stop. While this might give a slight bit more advertisement to our area, it doesn't seem like a fresh idea. Downtown Skokie is an up and coming area. Have you been to the farmers market on sundays? Try the garlic cheese dip! Have you been to tub tim thai or eclissi or annies? Don't talk down on the community for trying to build itself up. There are plenty of students who are glad they can just hop off the train and walk a couple blocks to OCC. This new train station is revamping the area and giving it a fighting chance. While I also agree that there is a certain subgroup of criminal people beginning to overwhelm the respectful population in Skokie, this was not a train motivated crime.
KT June 19, 2012 at 01:39 PM
I agree JK. I can remember when me and my friends in the neighborhood used to run around all night long and our parents left the doors unlocked and weren't worried overmuch when we didn't come home right at dark. I can remember LARGE groups of kids being friendly and having parties and playing dodgeball or 500 or red light green light. Now I barely see more than 3 kids in my neighborhood playing no farther than a block from their townhomes. I see an increase in the crime in my neighborhood. I can remember when the biggest issue we had was people stealing bikes and now I have to worry someone is going to break into my car or home. We need to take back our neighborhood. Make it like it was when I felt safe walking the two blocks to OCC from LJHS whereas now there are drug busts and traffic offenders and shootings around that area. I walked into the police station to report drug incidents in my building and the cop at the desk cockily told me that we should call it in when we see it happen. YES officer, I will go knock on the drug dealer upstairs apt and tell him to show me the deal so I can make sure the cops show up before it's over. Skokie should stop spending millions to build police departments and spend it on getting a better police force. Our poor guys can't handle the crap coming in.
KT June 19, 2012 at 01:52 PM
To be perfectly honest, section 8 housing typically attracts an unwanted group of people, for instance the "broke" families who can't afford rent but somehow drive a car that costs 75k, but it also helps out families that need it. There is a woman with a child who is permanently in a wheelchair living in the section 8 by me and why do we have the right to tell her she needs to take her kid to some ghetto area where they have section 8. It's not strictly broke section 8 people, it's all the gangster types and criminals moving into the area. I laugh when people say "Oh you live in jewtown?" The temple by me is rented or owned by african americans who hold church services there. My neighborhood is full of african americans, asians, and indians now. Cities change, it happens, we just need to do something to make a more positive change. Lets be a melting pot in a good way, not turn Skokie into a long forgotten dumpster for criminals to reside in.
h m June 19, 2012 at 02:40 PM
Michael Patrick, I am glad to see someone knows the history of the downtown skokie area. You are corerct, the Hull/Lamon area was bad back in the late '70s. You are corerct, if you can't remember where Oakton Bowl, Old Orchard Bowl, Old Orchard Theatre, or Sunset Drive-In were, you really do not know the history of Skokie.
Michael Patrick June 20, 2012 at 03:24 AM
How old are you people? Do you really think that the Yellow Line was granted intact to the simple country folk of Skokie by the CTA fairies? News flash, folks: the Yellow Line is a partial remnant of a branch of the old Northshore Electric Railway. In Skokie, there were stops at East Prairie, Kostner, Oakton, Dempster, and Old Orchard Rd. as the line made its way out to Mundelein. The closure of those stops in the early 60s did not cause crime to drop in Skokie, and the opening of the new stop will not cause crime to spike either.
Michael Patrick June 20, 2012 at 03:57 AM
Steve-how bout we call you a r****t rather than a pessimist? Your thinly veiled references to "demographics" and your disdain for being "politically correct" lead me to conclude that you are blaming the problems you perceive in Skokie on people who don't look like you. I'll eat my words and apologize to you if you''ll come out and tell us something: what EXACTLY do you mean by "unfortunate change...in Skokie demographics."?
Michael Patrick June 20, 2012 at 04:09 AM
Yep. Raised in Skokie. Educated in Skokie. Employed in Skokie. NOT a newcomer. Not a part of the changing demographic. Anybody got the guts to take back any of there hysterical conjecture?
Michael Patrick June 21, 2012 at 01:27 AM
Try some facts about the past: http://www.egovlink.com/public_documents300/skokie/published_documents/Police%20Department/AnniversaryBooklet07.pdf
Frank June 21, 2012 at 05:15 PM
If you didn't attend Skokie Voice meeting you missed Chief Scarpelli's explanation of the matter which stemmed from a domestic situation. He tried to soft see the incident. What I don't understand is how he can not see that someone brandishing a weapon on Oakton Street is no longer domestic as it affects everyone working, walking, shopping in the area?
Mary June 21, 2012 at 05:33 PM
to Frank: Regarding the Skokie Voice meeting last night and your comment about the police chief trying to soft sell the shooting incident last week on Oakton Street. It is very unfortunate, but that is the way of the world and you cannot control who visits your village or what they do. What Skokie needs to do and I do think they are trying to get the message out that this type of behavior will not be tolerated and if you do behave in an unlawful manor, you will pay the price.
Michael Patrick June 22, 2012 at 05:32 PM
The parking permits PRESERVE parking for tax-paying residents. It helps cops tell who belongs in the neighborhood and who doesn't. THANK YOU to the current council-manager team.
HHH1 September 13, 2012 at 12:58 PM
40 Year resident-Thank you for bringing up the B.S. that is crammed down our throats by the bleeding hearts of this town about the section 8 housing being mostly elderly. Jeez that is so annoying. You should see in some other Skokie forums the whiners who tell us to stop blaming the section 8 housing for the surge in violent crime. One genius in another Skokie forum....direct quote: "Section 8 does not equal thugs." No not at all.-That's why Chicago spent all that $$$ demolishing the CHA projects...because there was no thug element. How friggin' clueless and airheaded is this world getting. All you people( I'm NOT saying this to people on THIS forum) who say Sec. 8 is NOT bringing in a higher violent crime element into Skokie, why don't you guys go live there since it's so wonderful, hmmm?


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